Comments on: One Month of Sitting Every Day http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/2008/02/15/one-month-of-sitting-every-day/ Liberate! Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:05:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Mom http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/2008/02/15/one-month-of-sitting-every-day/#comment-99254 Mom Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:21:38 +0000 http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/?p=214#comment-99254 Most Bald Eagles migrate but some stay put. There is a pair that winters here and raises a couple babies each year. There are some Golden's too and it's sometimes hard for me to tell them apart from the immature Bald's unless I'm close enough to get a sense of their size. And there are several types of hawks that winter here as well. I don't think mice and such hibernate - picture the foxes and coyotes springing into deep snow to pounce on one. And, yes, I see the raptors diving sometimes. Most Bald Eagles migrate but some stay put. There is a pair that winters here and raises a couple babies each year. There are some Golden’s too and it’s sometimes hard for me to tell them apart from the immature Bald’s unless I’m close enough to get a sense of their size. And there are several types of hawks that winter here as well. I don’t think mice and such hibernate - picture the foxes and coyotes springing into deep snow to pounce on one. And, yes, I see the raptors diving sometimes.

]]> By: DeAnna http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/2008/02/15/one-month-of-sitting-every-day/#comment-98819 DeAnna Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:54:52 +0000 http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/?p=214#comment-98819 I've been sitting at all different times. Some people do more or less the same time, but I think most people are pretty flexible about it. We all have busy lives, so you just fit it in where you can, you know? You can read people's stories about what they do and see at their sit spots during the challenge here http://www.naturetalk.net/viewforum.php?f=30&sid=5baf430df8c0771d21b74262baa13fd4 Someone even started a thread where you can tell the story of your sit spot in a haiku ;) And I'm curious about the raptors now. I didn't realize that any wintered over where you are. I wonder what they eat? It seems like all the small furry things are hibernating. Do you ever see them dive for things? I’ve been sitting at all different times. Some people do more or less the same time, but I think most people are pretty flexible about it. We all have busy lives, so you just fit it in where you can, you know? You can read people’s stories about what they do and see at their sit spots during the challenge here http://www.naturetalk.net/viewforum.php?f=30&sid=5baf430df8c0771d21b74262baa13fd4

Someone even started a thread where you can tell the story of your sit spot in a haiku ;)

And I’m curious about the raptors now. I didn’t realize that any wintered over where you are. I wonder what they eat? It seems like all the small furry things are hibernating. Do you ever see them dive for things?

]]> By: Mom http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/2008/02/15/one-month-of-sitting-every-day/#comment-98784 Mom Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:54:13 +0000 http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/?p=214#comment-98784 I could sit by the picture window overlooking the koi pond and birdfeeder but, honestly, my dog and 3 cats are so demanding that I don't believe they would let me just sit there for 30 minutes without wanting to be petted, wanting to be let out, wanting to be let in, wanting food, trying to fight with each other.....they are a real pita. I would just about have to be in another room with the door closed so then they would just be meowing, whimpering, and scratching on the door......I think I would love to do it but would be better off doing it at a different time of year when I could actually be outside and hear something. Honestly, on the really windy days, I don't see coyotes. Sometimes I see large raptors but they really struggle. The deer stay in groups way out in the open, presumably so when they can't hear something sneak up on them, they have plenty of time to see something coming from all directions. I've wondered about the Blackfeet and can't imagine anyone in their right minds living on the prairie here in the winter. I'll have to ask someone where they went in the winter before they were restricted to the Res. Is the idea that you sit at the same time each day or can the time vary? I could sit by the picture window overlooking the koi pond and birdfeeder but, honestly, my dog and 3 cats are so demanding that I don’t believe they would let me just sit there for 30 minutes without wanting to be petted, wanting to be let out, wanting to be let in, wanting food, trying to fight with each other…..they are a real pita. I would just about have to be in another room with the door closed so then they would just be meowing, whimpering, and scratching on the door……I think I would love to do it but would be better off doing it at a different time of year when I could actually be outside and hear something. Honestly, on the really windy days, I don’t see coyotes. Sometimes I see large raptors but they really struggle. The deer stay in groups way out in the open, presumably so when they can’t hear something sneak up on them, they have plenty of time to see something coming from all directions.
I’ve wondered about the Blackfeet and can’t imagine anyone in their right minds living on the prairie here in the winter. I’ll have to ask someone where they went in the winter before they were restricted to the Res.
Is the idea that you sit at the same time each day or can the time vary?

]]> By: DeAnna http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/2008/02/15/one-month-of-sitting-every-day/#comment-98642 DeAnna Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:40:04 +0000 http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/?p=214#comment-98642 Yes, Mom, that's because humans were not intended to live where you live in the wintertime ;) Actually, do you know if the Native people in your area lived there through the winters, or did they migrate to warmer/less windy places? And it also makes me wonder about the animals that *do* live there through the winter. I suppose a lot of them hibernate, but not all of them. Like the raccoons, or even the coyotes that rely on their hearing so much for hunting...I wonder what sort of adaptive techniques they use to deal with the wind. And there are people who sit near a picture window, so you could still join the 30-day challenge if you wanted to. It's more about tuning in, in a really conscious way, to what's going on outside, not about trying to prove anything about cold-tolerance or anything. And of course, you can do it any time of year you want :) Yes, Mom, that’s because humans were not intended to live where you live in the wintertime ;) Actually, do you know if the Native people in your area lived there through the winters, or did they migrate to warmer/less windy places? And it also makes me wonder about the animals that *do* live there through the winter. I suppose a lot of them hibernate, but not all of them. Like the raccoons, or even the coyotes that rely on their hearing so much for hunting…I wonder what sort of adaptive techniques they use to deal with the wind.

And there are people who sit near a picture window, so you could still join the 30-day challenge if you wanted to. It’s more about tuning in, in a really conscious way, to what’s going on outside, not about trying to prove anything about cold-tolerance or anything. And of course, you can do it any time of year you want :)

]]> By: Mom http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/2008/02/15/one-month-of-sitting-every-day/#comment-98449 Mom Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:24:46 +0000 http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/?p=214#comment-98449 I did want to add though that this is another good example of something I would not enjoy doing this time of year because of the wind. There would be nowhere for me to get out of it if I was outside. And the wind makes it so I can't hear anything and squinting against it means I can't see anything either. I already full well know what it feels like to freeze to I don't see that as a possibility for enlightenment. I would love to do this either somewhere else in the world or at another time of year. I did want to add though that this is another good example of something I would not enjoy doing this time of year because of the wind. There would be nowhere for me to get out of it if I was outside. And the wind makes it so I can’t hear anything and squinting against it means I can’t see anything either. I already full well know what it feels like to freeze to I don’t see that as a possibility for enlightenment. I would love to do this either somewhere else in the world or at another time of year.

]]> By: Mom http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/2008/02/15/one-month-of-sitting-every-day/#comment-98446 Mom Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:22:44 +0000 http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/?p=214#comment-98446 No, no...the animals are not trapped. You just drop a mothball in the tunnel and they will vacate the area. It doesn't kill them. When I had a serious problem with gophers I live-trapped them and relocated them. I didn't kill them with mothballs. And I never covered up the holes - so nothing was trapped inside - animals or gasses. No, no…the animals are not trapped. You just drop a mothball in the tunnel and they will vacate the area. It doesn’t kill them. When I had a serious problem with gophers I live-trapped them and relocated them. I didn’t kill them with mothballs. And I never covered up the holes - so nothing was trapped inside - animals or gasses.

]]> By: DeAnna http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/2008/02/15/one-month-of-sitting-every-day/#comment-98444 DeAnna Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:11:14 +0000 http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/?p=214#comment-98444 Mothballs: (from the Purdue University site) "Mothballs contain 100% of either naphthalene or paradichlorobenzene. Both of these ingredients can produce harmful effects when they enter your system through inhalation. Irritation to nose, throat, and lungs, headache, confusion, excitement or depression, and liver and kidney damage can result from exposure to mothball vapors over a long period of time." "Poisonings have been reported following dressing infants in clothing that was stored with naphthalene mothballs, suggesting that absorption of naphthalene may occur through the skin." "The warning label on mothball products reads "avoid prolonged breathing of vapors." This label is at odds with the normal use of mothballs." "Vapor irritates skin, eyes and respiratory tract; large doses can cause injury to liver; suspected carcinogen" "Damages liver; prolonged vapor exposure has led to cataract formation" "Mothballs should be taken to a licensed hazardous waste handler" "naphthalene can promote a breakdown of red blood cells resulting in hemolytic anemia" "They are poisonous when eaten and seizures can develop in less than one hour" I don't think I would be comfortable using mothballs around our pets or other living animals. Most songbirds don't have much of a sense of smell, and I bet mothballs look like good nesting material if left outside. Also, if you put them in the tunnels and cover the tunnel over, it essentially off-gasses poisonous vapors that cause death by suffocation. How long has it been since you read Watership Down? I know your situation is different where gopher holes could result in injury or death to your horses. I don't have a good enough justification for such extreme measures. Mothballs: (from the Purdue University site)
“Mothballs contain 100% of either naphthalene or paradichlorobenzene. Both of these ingredients can produce harmful effects when they enter your system through inhalation. Irritation to nose, throat, and lungs, headache, confusion, excitement or depression, and liver and kidney damage can result from exposure to mothball vapors over a long period of time.”

“Poisonings have been reported following dressing infants in clothing that was stored with naphthalene mothballs, suggesting that absorption of naphthalene may occur through the skin.”

“The warning label on mothball products reads “avoid prolonged breathing of vapors.” This label is at odds with the normal use of mothballs.”

“Vapor irritates skin, eyes and respiratory tract; large doses can cause injury to liver; suspected carcinogen”

“Damages liver; prolonged vapor exposure has led to cataract formation”

“Mothballs should be taken to a licensed hazardous waste handler”

“naphthalene can promote a breakdown of red blood cells resulting in hemolytic anemia”

“They are poisonous when eaten and seizures can develop in less than one hour”

I don’t think I would be comfortable using mothballs around our pets or other living animals. Most songbirds don’t have much of a sense of smell, and I bet mothballs look like good nesting material if left outside. Also, if you put them in the tunnels and cover the tunnel over, it essentially off-gasses poisonous vapors that cause death by suffocation. How long has it been since you read Watership Down?

I know your situation is different where gopher holes could result in injury or death to your horses. I don’t have a good enough justification for such extreme measures.

]]> By: Mom http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/2008/02/15/one-month-of-sitting-every-day/#comment-98437 Mom Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:57:21 +0000 http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/?p=214#comment-98437 I've had really good luck with putting mothballs in the tunnels of burrowing critters. They really don't like them and move away. And only use one or two mothballs in each tunnel as they are really strong. I’ve had really good luck with putting mothballs in the tunnels of burrowing critters. They really don’t like them and move away. And only use one or two mothballs in each tunnel as they are really strong.

]]> By: deandail http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/2008/02/15/one-month-of-sitting-every-day/#comment-97223 deandail Sun, 17 Feb 2008 01:06:40 +0000 http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/?p=214#comment-97223 Amis, that's funny, I forgot to mention an important detail. When I was first watching the ground move, the earthworms were all coming up out of the ground just ahead of the tunnelling activity. I wonder if moles eat earthworms... Kathy, some of everything I think. It's a core concept in the Wilderness Awareness School exercises I've done. It's mostly just about getting outside and seeing what's going on in the world. But I suspect that it's a sneaky coyote way of getting folks to meditate also. If anyone's curious about this particular 30 days, there are a whole bunch of people sitting every day worldwide for the next 30 days. It's kinda cool to be doing it en masse. You can read more about it here <a href="http://www.wildernessawareness.org/home_study/30day_challenge.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wildernessawareness.org/home_study/30day_challenge.html</a> and especially click on the link to the 30-day Challenge Map, which is super cool to see where everyone is sitting all over the world. (Last time I checked, I wasn't on there yet). There's also a forum where people can share what they see while they're sitting and what the places are like from all over. It's really fun, I think. Amis, that’s funny, I forgot to mention an important detail. When I was first watching the ground move, the earthworms were all coming up out of the ground just ahead of the tunnelling activity. I wonder if moles eat earthworms…

Kathy, some of everything I think. It’s a core concept in the Wilderness Awareness School exercises I’ve done. It’s mostly just about getting outside and seeing what’s going on in the world. But I suspect that it’s a sneaky coyote way of getting folks to meditate also.

If anyone’s curious about this particular 30 days, there are a whole bunch of people sitting every day worldwide for the next 30 days. It’s kinda cool to be doing it en masse. You can read more about it here http://www.wildernessawareness.org/home_study/30day_challenge.html
and especially click on the link to the 30-day Challenge Map, which is super cool to see where everyone is sitting all over the world. (Last time I checked, I wasn’t on there yet). There’s also a forum where people can share what they see while they’re sitting and what the places are like from all over. It’s really fun, I think.

]]> By: Kathy http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/2008/02/15/one-month-of-sitting-every-day/#comment-97186 Kathy Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:04:04 +0000 http://www.whoaphotos.com/blog/?p=214#comment-97186 DeAnna, Tell us about the idea of sitting everyday for a month. How long? Meditating? or Observing? or? Thanks! --Kathy DeAnna, Tell us about the idea of sitting everyday for a month. How long? Meditating? or Observing? or? Thanks! –Kathy

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